Edwards moving out of Nevada

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070815/ap_o n_el_pr/edwards_nevada_1;_ylt=AkFwfDmQa7 GZjLCazCc69S0b.3QA

The AP is reporting that John Edwards is moving some staff out of Nevada, choosing to concentrate on the early constests of Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina.  

Those involved haven't reported an exact number, but are saying a handful.

I find this surprising from the Edwards camp, given the large Union base of Nevada, a group figured to be big Edwards supporters given his economic populist messages and staunchly Pro-Union message.  Exactly HOW many he pulls out will be very telling, but until we get a number, I see several possible reasons behind this...

1) Edwards feels that with all the states moving up, Nevada will not have a prominent place in the nominating process and would that Iowa, NH and SC will make or break him.  

2) Edwards thinks that the polling showing she-who-will-not-be-named way ahead is accurate and is not going to compete as hard due to this.

3) Edwards thinks he is a shoo-in due to the union base of Nevada and doesn't think the resources are more important in other states.

4) Edwards doesn't have the money to compete against she-who-will-not-be-named and Obama and is choosing his battles carefully to fully maximize his dollars.

Of course this could be the media making mountains out of molehills but it will be interesting to watch as things continue and we continue to fight to have our party represented by someone other than she-who-must-not-be-named so we can take back the White House in 2008.  



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Re: Edwards moving out of Nevada (none / 0)

"Of course this could be the media making mountains out of molehills but it will be interesting to watch as things continue and we continue to fight to have our party represented by someone other than she-who-must-not-be-named so we can take back the White House in 2008."

Count me out of that "fight."  I for one believe that she-who-must-not-be-named gives us the best chance at taking back the White House in 2008.


by georgep on Wed Aug 15, 2007 at 11:53:22 AM EST

Re: Edwards moving out of Nevada (none / 0)

48% to 43% is entirely not bad.  The case for "electability" based on negatives is actually weakened by numbers like that.


by georgep on Wed Aug 15, 2007 at 12:07:42 PM EST
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Re: Edwards moving out of Nevada (none / 0)

favorability ratings are poor indicators of electoral success


by world dictator on Wed Aug 15, 2007 at 01:09:38 PM EST
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Nevada NO LONGER SECOND (none / 0)

originally NEvada was going BETWEEN IA and NH..
now NH and IA are moving up so Nevada will no longer be second but third or 4th
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by TarHeel on Wed Aug 15, 2007 at 03:23:39 PM EST
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I think your reasoning is pretty sound. It'll be interesting to see what happens


by world dictator on Wed Aug 15, 2007 at 11:56:27 AM EST

Re: Edwards moving out of Nevada (none / 0)

I don't understand the SC part at all. He's not polling well there but maybe I am missing something.


by bruh21 on Wed Aug 15, 2007 at 12:00:04 PM EST

Re: Edwards moving out of Nevada (none / 0)

I suppose.


by bruh21 on Wed Aug 15, 2007 at 12:07:05 PM EST
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African Americans (none / 0)

aren't even considering Edwards.

and they are 45% of the democratic voters.

It's pretty simple


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by TarHeel on Wed Aug 15, 2007 at 02:32:35 PM EST
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Re: African Americans (none / 0)

my point exactly for SC


by bruh21 on Wed Aug 15, 2007 at 09:45:11 PM EST
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Re: Edwards moving out of Nevada (none / 0)

There's no way for Edwards to spin it into anything but bad news. NV is supposed to be a test of support among labor and Latino voters and, if he can't count on their support here, how can he be confident about the Great Lakes and the West?


by RandyMI on Wed Aug 15, 2007 at 12:02:13 PM EST

Re: Edwards moving out of Nevada (none / 0)

as posted in the diary to which you are responding this can be read as bad or good. that you choose bad says a lot about your objectivity.


by bruh21 on Wed Aug 15, 2007 at 12:08:06 PM EST
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Re: Edwards moving out of Nevada (none / 0)

Pulling out is not a sign of strength. You need to be a huge fan to say it's good news.


by RandyMI on Wed Aug 15, 2007 at 01:16:38 PM EST
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Re: Edwards moving out of Nevada (3.00 / 1)

There's a difference between "moving out," which implies outright abandonment, and "shifting resources."

My feeling is that especially for Edwards, if you can't make it through Iowa and New Hampshire, Nevada doesn't matter as much in August.

Wait until the Union endorsements come out.  I think you will see a renewed focus on Nevada later in the year.


The sharpest criticism often goes hand in hand with the deepest idealism and love of country. ~RFK
by Vox Populi on Wed Aug 15, 2007 at 12:16:30 PM EST

Re: Edwards moving out of Nevada (none / 0)

I thought Nevada comes near the beginning.


by RandyMI on Wed Aug 15, 2007 at 01:17:28 PM EST
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Re: Edwards moving out of Nevada (none / 0)

Vox,

NV comes before NH in January.

Because of the schedule this year, SC and FL, might force NH back past NV.

My take is that something has happened here with an endorsment from Culinary.

Either they've decided, or have the Edward's campaign has gotten word that CUlinary isn't going to endorse.  They might be going on strike soon, and the media attention that being able to get presidential candidates to come out and walk the picket line could put a lot of pressure on employers.


by ManfromMiddletown on Wed Aug 15, 2007 at 01:29:48 PM EST
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Re: Edwards moving out of Nevada (none / 0)

I'm starting to think the Unions won't endorse in the primaries, which will probably hurt Edwards... Or if they don't want to support She-Who-Will-Not-Be-Named and it looks like Obama (or Gore if he gets in) is the best chance, they might swing it that way.  But if I had to bet, I'd go with very little Union Endorsements in the primaries and a BIG BIG push in the General.


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by yitbos96bb on Thu Aug 16, 2007 at 12:52:03 AM EST
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Re: Edwards moving out of Nevada (none / 0)

I'd agree with that.  If Edwards finishes third in both NH and Iowa, he is probably done.  Of course if She-Who-Will-Not-Be-Named wins Iowa by a great amount, its probably over.. Hopefully Obama, Edwards, or Gore will step up as the Progressive Harry Potter and vanquish You-Know-Who.


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by yitbos96bb on Thu Aug 16, 2007 at 12:48:15 AM EST
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Re: Edwards moving out of Nevada (none / 0)

He is staking everything on Iowa and just hoping that his "Iowa Rule" will do the rest- he has little else to put hope in.  As he said a while back-

“In 2004 John Kerry won the nomination in Iowa,” he said. “I didn’t know it—painfully, I didn’t know it, since I finished second—but I thought it began a two-person race. What I didn’t understand is that there is such a wave of momentum behind the winner of the Iowa caucus that it is extraordinarily hard to turn it around.”

Mr. Edwards tried to convince his supporters and donors that despite his more modest fund-raising totals and his being behind in national surveys, his slight lead in Iowa polls put him in an enviable position.

“Just in case you don’t know, every campaign knows what I just said,” Mr. Edwards said about the difficulty of turning around after a defeat in Iowa. “This is not just me. If you want to know what people believe matters, look at where Obama and Hillary are spending their time and where they are spending their money. Follow the money and follow the candidates’ time and you will know what they think matters.”

He added that “both of them, by the way, have been in Iowa more than me in this campaign—they are living in Iowa and New Hampshire, because they understand that if you lose Iowa it is incredibly hard to turn it around.”

Mr. Edwards didn’t bring up the fact that he virtually took up residence in Iowa for months, if not years, before officially joining the race, helping him to build the small lead there that he still clings to over Mrs. Clinton in most polls.

http://www.observer.com/2007/edwards-lay s-it-out-fund-raiser


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by reasonwarrior on Wed Aug 15, 2007 at 01:18:09 PM EST

Bad sign (none / 0)

Bad bad sign.

Pulling out of an early state is never a positive.  Never.


by dpANDREWS on Wed Aug 15, 2007 at 04:26:21 PM EST

Re: Bad sign (none / 0)

Sure, if NV was an early state. It's not any more, thus the scaling down of resources devoted there.


by Quinton on Wed Aug 15, 2007 at 09:35:48 PM EST
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Reid threatens Edwards (none / 0)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffpost/2007081 6/cm_huffpost/060629

After release of the news that John Edwards would be lowering Nevada's place on his political priority roster and moving personnel out of the state, Reid said: "Any candidate who chooses to ignore Nevada and its rich diversity does so at their own peril."


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by areyouready on Thu Aug 16, 2007 at 12:57:41 AM EST

Re: Reid threatens Edwards (none / 0)

Yeah, the man who turns belly up to the Republicans all the time is a guy we should take seriously.  The guy whose son is a Clinton staffer would never make remarks against her opponents, would he?


The sharpest criticism often goes hand in hand with the deepest idealism and love of country. ~RFK
by Vox Populi on Thu Aug 16, 2007 at 08:39:30 AM EST
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Re: Reid threatens Edwards (none / 0)

She-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named's influence reaches far into the bowels of our party... She must be stopped.


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by yitbos96bb on Thu Aug 16, 2007 at 08:08:06 PM EST
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